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Clinton Stumbles On Fresh Questions Regarding Emails

- January 10, 2016

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Clinton Struggled To Explain Her Email Instructing An Aide To Remove Headings From A Fax And "Send Nonsecure," Insisting It Was "Common Practice And "There's No There There." CBS'S JOHN DICKERSON: "This week another batch of your emails were released by the State Department. One of them is a back-and-forth between you and a staffer about a secure fax that won't come through and you directed him to 'turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send non-secure.' Aren't you ordering him to violate the laws on handling classified material there?" CLINTON: "No, not at all, and as the State Department said just this week, that did not happen and it never would have happened because that's just not the way I treated classified information. Headings are not classification notices and so often times were trying to get the best information we can and obviously what I'm asking for is whatever can be transmitted. If it doesn't come through secure to be transmitted on the unclassified system. So no there is nothing to that like so much else that has been talked about in the last year." DICKERSON: "So in no instance -- what's striking about that particular email suggests you were very facile with how to do this, this process. You knew the instructions about how to get around the restrictions for sending classified information. So your saying there was never an instance, any other instance in which you did that?" CLINTON: "No, and it wasn't sent. So, I think, you know, this is another instance where what is common practice, namely look I need information, I had some points I had to make, and I was waiting for a secure fax that could give me the whole picture, but often times there is a lot of information that isn't at all classified. So, whatever information can be appropriately transmitted unclassified often was, that's true for every agency in the government and everybody who does business with the government. But the important point here is I had great confidence because I had worked with Jake Sullivan for years. He is the most meticulous, carful person you could possibly do business with and he knew exactly what was and wasn't appropriate and in fact as the State Department said there was no transmission of any classified information. So, it's another effort by people looking for something to throw against the wall, as you said in the beginning of the program, to see what sticks, but there's no there there." DICKERSON: "Well, this one is a little different since the FBI is investigating this specific question of whether a classification was meddled with." (CBS's " Face The Nation," 1/10/16)

Yesterday, The Associated Press Reported That The State Department Won't Say Whether The Document She Instructed Be Sent "Nonsecure" Was Classified Or Not Or If It Was Appropriate For Clinton To Instruct A Staffer To Remove Email Headings And Send Via Nonsecure System. "Was the document classified or unclassified? The State Department won't say. And was Clinton wrong to instruct a senior aide to send it through nonsecure means, even if that request wasn't fulfilled? The department says it isn't making a judgment." (Bradley Klapper, "More Detail, New Questions About 2011 Clinton Email," The Associated Press, 1/9/16)

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After Having Used Personal Email Exclusively As Secretary, Clinton Was Unable To Explain Why She Was Surprised A State Department Aide Used A Private Email Account. DICKERSON: "Let me ask you about another email in this batch, which was one in which you seemed to express surprise that somebody emailed on their non-State department personal email, which is what you were doing. Why was that a surprise to you?" CLINTON: "Well, I emailed two people on their government accounts because I knew that all of that would be part of the government system. And indeed, the vast majority of all my emails are in the government system. So that's how I conducted the business, I was very clear about emailing anything having to do with business to people on their government accounts." (CBS's "Face the Nation," 1/10/16)


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