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Top 5 Reasons Clinton's Marine Recruiter Story Doesn't Add Up

- November 13, 2015

Reason #1: Hillary Clinton Had A Record Of Left Wing Radicalism, And Likely "Worked On A Slew Of Cases Involving Men Seeking Conscientious Objector Status To Avoid The Draft"

In 1971, Clinton Clerked "At One Of America's Most Radical Law Firms, Treuhaft, Walker And Burnstein." "In a life marked largely by political caution, one entry on Senator Clinton's résumé stands out: her clerkship in 1971 at one of America's most radical law firms, Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein." (Josh Gerstein, "Hillary Clinton's Radical Summer," The New York Sun, 11/26/07)

  • The New York Sun Headline: "Hillary Clinton's Radical Summer" (Josh Gerstein, "Hillary Clinton's Radical Summer," The New York Sun, 11/26/07)

Doris Walker, One Of The Firm's Partners Who Was Also A Member Of The Communist Party, Said "Clinton Probably Also Worked On A Slew Of Cases Involving Men Seeking Conscientious Objector Status To Avoid The Draft." "One partner at the firm, Doris Walker, was a Communist Party member at the time. … Ms. Walker said Mrs. Clinton probably also worked on a slew of cases involving men seeking conscientious objector status to avoid the draft. 'We were doing so much Vietnam War stuff then,' Ms. Walker recalled. 'I'm sure she worked on those.'" (Josh Gerstein, "Hillary Clinton's Radical Summer," The New York Sun, 11/26/07)

  • Walker: "We Were Doing So Much Vietnam War Stuff Then … I'm Sure She Worked On Those." "One partner at the firm, Doris Walker, was a Communist Party member at the time. … Ms. Walker said Mrs. Clinton probably also worked on a slew of cases involving men seeking conscientious objector status to avoid the draft. 'We were doing so much Vietnam War stuff then,' Ms. Walker recalled. 'I'm sure she worked on those.'" (Josh Gerstein, "Hillary Clinton's Radical Summer," The New York Sun, 11/26/07)
  • When Clinton Questioned Obama's Ties To 1960s Radicals During The 2008 Campaign, Walker Called Clinton "A Hypocrite" In Light Of Her Work At Their Firm That Defended Black Panthers And Communists. "When Hillary Rodham Clinton questioned rival Barack Obama's ties to 1960s radicals, her comments baffled two retired Bay Area lawyers who knew Clinton in the summer of 1971 when she worked as an intern at a left-wing law firm in Oakland, Calif., that defended communists and Black Panthers. 'She's a hypocrite,' Doris B. Walker, 89, who was a member of the American Communist Party, said in an interview last week. 'She had to know who we were and what kinds of cases we were handling. We had a very left-wing reputation, including civil rights, constitutional law, racist problems.'" (James V. Grimaldi, "Clinton Quiet About Own Radical Ties," The Washington Post, 5/19/08)
  • Walker: "We Had A Very Left-Wing Reputation, Including Civil Rights, Constitutional Law, Racist Problems." "When Hillary Rodham Clinton questioned rival Barack Obama's ties to 1960s radicals, her comments baffled two retired Bay Area lawyers who knew Clinton in the summer of 1971 when she worked as an intern at a left-wing law firm in Oakland, Calif., that defended communists and Black Panthers. 'She's a hypocrite,' Doris B. Walker, 89, who was a member of the American Communist Party, said in an interview last week. 'She had to know who we were and what kinds of cases we were handling. We had a very left-wing reputation, including civil rights, constitutional law, racist problems.'" (James V. Grimaldi, "Clinton Quiet About Own Radical Ties," The Washington Post, 5/19/08)

Reason #2: Hillary Clinton Was A Steadfast Opponent Of The Vietnam War And An Anti-War Activist

At The Time, Clinton "Didn't Have A Track Record As A Steadfast Military Supporter." "She had just moved to Fayetteville, Arkansas, as Bill Clinton pursued his rise to Arkansas attorney general. She also didn't have a track record as a steadfast military supporter: While at Wellesley College, she protested the Vietnam War and worked on anti-war presidential campaigns at Yale, The New York Times noted." (Oriana Pawlyk, "Why Hillary Clinton Says The Marine Corps Turned Her Away," Marine Corps Times , 11/12/15)

  • "She Had Made A Celebrated Appearance In Life Magazine As An Anti-Establishment Commencement Speaker At Wellesley College, Where, As President Of The Student Government, She Had Organized Teach-Ins On Her Opposition To The Vietnam War." "She had made a celebrated appearance in Life magazine as an anti-establishment commencement speaker at Wellesley College, where, as president of the student government, she had organized teach-ins on her opposition to the Vietnam War." (Maureen Dowd, "Hillary Clinton Says She Once Tried To Be Marine," The New York Times, 6/15/94)
  • "She Was A Yale Law School Graduate Who Had Worked On The Anti-War Presidential Campaigns Of Eugene J. McCarthy And George McGovern." (Maureen Dowd, "Hillary Clinton Says She Once Tried To Be Marine," The New York Times, 6/15/94)

Reason #3: The Marines Had Accepted Female Applicants For Decades Prior The Clinton's Supposed Encounter

"It's An Open Question Whether The Marines Would Turn A Woman Away, Especially Someone Who Had An Accomplished Background Like Clinton." (Jeff Zeleny and Dan Merica, "Hillary Clinton Revives Story Of Trying To Join The Marines," CNN, 11/11/15)

  • "Women Have Been Part Of The Marines Since 1918 …" "But would women at the time need to test the Marines? Women have been part of the Marines since 1918, and were deployed to Korea in the 1950s. 'By the height of the Vietnam war, there were about 2,700 women Marines served [sic.] both stateside and overseas,' according to the Women Marines Association." (Glenn Kessler, "Hillary Clinton's Claim That She Tried To Join The Marines," The Washington Post , 11/12/15)
  • "According To The Women Marines Association, The Marine Corps Women's Reserve Was Established In 1943 And Female Reservists Were Deployed To Korean In 1950." (Jeff Zeleny and Dan Merica, "Hillary Clinton Revives Story Of Trying To Join The Marines," CNN, 11/11/15)
  • "And By 1975, According To The Association, The Marine Corps Allowed Women To Serve In All Occupational Fields Except Infantry, Artillery, Armor And Pilot/Air Crew." (Jeff Zeleny and Dan Merica, "Hillary Clinton Revives Story Of Trying To Join The Marines," CNN, 11/11/15)

Reason #4: Clinton's Friends At The Time Say This Was Likely Part Of A Series Of "Tests" To Examine Female Career Opportunities, And Not A Sincere Attempt To Join The Marines

The Washington Post 's Glenn Kessler: "It Makes More Sense That She Approached The Marines As Part Of A Deliberate Effort To Test The Boundaries Available To Women, Especially Given Her Documented Antiwar Activities." "Clinton suggests she simply decided to join the Marines, as part of way to serve the country. But it makes more sense that she approached the Marines as part of a deliberate effort to test the boundaries available to women, especially given her documented antiwar activities." (Glenn Kessler, “Hillary Clinton’s Claim That She Tried To Join The Marines,” The Washington Post, 11/12/15)

Clinton's Friend Ann Henry, Then A University Of Arkansas Professor, "Said She Recalled The Incident Happened In The Context Of The Lack Of Opportunity For Women." "Another friend, then University of Arkansas professor Ann Henry, said she recalled the incident happened in the context of the lack of opportunity for women. Sometimes female faculty members went out to conduct 'tests' of access to various careers seemingly closed to women, Henry told von Drehle. Reached by phone after Clinton's latest remarks, the now-retired Henry said that she still recalls the discussion about testing the limits. She said conversations grew out of the state's Commission on the Status of Women, which was created in 1971 and chaired by Blair, then known as Diane Kincaid. Henry said there were Marine recruiting offices on campus, and so Clinton could have easily stopped by one to conduct such a test." (Glenn Kessler, "Hillary Clinton's Claim That She Tried To Join The Marines," The Washington Post , 11/12/15)

  • According To Henry, Female Faculty Would "Conduct 'Tests' Of Access To Various Careers Seemingly Closed To Women" And That Clinton Could Have "Easily" Conducted Such A Test . "Another friend, then University of Arkansas professor Ann Henry, said she recalled the incident happened in the context of the lack of opportunity for women. Sometimes female faculty members went out to conduct 'tests' of access to various careers seemingly closed to women, Henry told von Drehle. Reached by phone after Clinton's latest remarks, the now-retired Henry said that she still recalls the discussion about testing the limits. She said conversations grew out of the state's Commission on the Status of Women, which was created in 1971 and chaired by Blair, then known as Diane Kincaid. Henry said there were Marine recruiting offices on campus, and so Clinton could have easily stopped by one to conduct such a test." (Glenn Kessler, "Hillary Clinton's Claim That She Tried To Join The Marines," The Washington Post , 11/12/15)
  • CNN Headline: "Friend Says Clinton Tried To Join Marines As Exercise In Women's Rights" (Dan Merica and Jeff Zeleny, "Friend Says Clinton Tried To Join Marines As Exercise In Women's Rights," CNN, 11/12/15)

Reason #5: Clinton Had Just Moved To Arkansas To Join Bill Clinton, Who Was On The Cusp Of Becoming Attorney General

CNN's Jeff Zeleny: "It Seems So Unusual" That Clinton Would Have Wanted To Join The Marines When She Had Just Moved To Arkansas And Bill Clinton Was About To Become The Attorney General. ZELENY: "So we asked her campaign for just a few more details on this because it seems so unusual that a Yale-educated lawyer who worked on the anti-war campaigns of McCarthy and McGovern, who had just moved to Arkansas, whose husband was about to become the attorney general of the state would decide to want to join the marines. But the campaign said they're not going to add any more comment on to this, so the questions are left to discuss here." (CNN's " New Day," 11/12/15)

  • At The Time, Clinton "Was An Up-And-Coming Legal Star Involved With An Up-And-Coming Political Star." "And it did not seem to fit in with the First Lady's own persona. After all, Hillary Rodham was an up-and-coming legal star involved with an up-and-coming political star. She had made a celebrated appearance in Life magazine as an anti-establishment commencement speaker at Wellesley College, where, as president of the student government, she had organized teach-ins on her opposition to the Vietnam War." (Maureen Dowd, "Hillary Clinton Says She Once Tried To Be Marine," The New York Times, 6/15/94)
  • "Clinton Told Friends That She Had Moved To Arkansas For Only One Reason: To Be With Bill Clinton." "Mrs. Clinton told friends that she had moved to Arkansas for only one reason: to be with Bill Clinton. Years later, she would tell Vanity Fair that she had stayed because 'I didn't see anything out there that I thought was more exciting or challenging than what I had in front of me.'" (Maureen Dowd, "Hillary Clinton Says She Once Tried To Be Marine," The New York Times, 6/15/94)
  • Clinton Later Said That She Stayed In Arkansas Because "I Didn't See Anything Out There That I Thought Was More Exciting Or Challenging Than What I Had In Front Of Me." "Mrs. Clinton told friends that she had moved to Arkansas for only one reason: to be with Bill Clinton. Years later, she would tell Vanity Fair that she had stayed because 'I didn't see anything out there that I thought was more exciting or challenging than what I had in front of me.'" (Maureen Dowd, "Hillary Clinton Says She Once Tried To Be Marine," The New York Times, 6/15/94)

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